The payments have cleared. In this way, you ensure that there's always enough money set aside to cover everything you charged on the card. It gets a bit trickier when the reimbursement is from a checking/savings account. [Investigating] We are investigating an elevated number of errors connecting to Citibank where YNABers are unable to complete the OAuth connection process due to a grayed out "Authorize" button. You have complete control over the number and names of categories, just as you would in a spreadsheet. When you checked to make sure all transactions were entered, did you see any that were inverted or for the wrong amount? I've gotta use a credit card … Or the amount due on the statement? YNAB, will sync Chase and see that the $20 transaction is no longer pending, and it will reconcile that transaction and "clear" it for you. By chance, are there any pending transactions currently in your Chase account? The cards have no balances on them. In a nutshell, when you start YNAB, you will manually enter your account balances, including credit card balances (the total as of the day you start using YNAB). If the balance in YNAB is $0 and there's funds in the Available category, then you can move money to put those funds where you need them. You create an obligation to pay back the credit card company later. However, rather than going back to try and check whether the starting balance was correct on the day you added the card to your budget, I would just allow YNAB to enter a balance adjustment transaction and move forward. A credit card now look what happens I've only got $730 left in the bank that I can use to budget for all my spending now there's only one way I can get through that month and that is to use the credit card all month long. Have you taken the class Mastering your credit cards? Fix it by reducing the budget value in one or more green categories, until TBB is $0. IF my bank reconciles every month to zero, why doesn't my YNAB? So if you know how much you ACTUALLY paid for each transaction, edit it to be that amount. Caveat: this assumes you access your CC statements online. So I used 'Reconcile Account' to bring the numbers back in line. Coral Hammer The article that dakinemaui posted below is very thorough and helpful. Most budgeting programs are based on looking back, YNAB looks forward, and was just the thing I needed. This app is not a part of the official You Need A Budget product. YNAB added a reconciliation adjustment and I figured that was it. Your statement balance is always irrelevant for the purpose of YNAB reconciliation. Since beginning YNAB in 2016, I have always used my credit card like a debit card- paying it off each month. Not sure if a moderator wants this moved to its own thread, but I am having a similar issue. And they are absolutely right about YNAB being designed to work around the current online balance. Because I thought YNAB just did it automatically- and because I never run a debt on my credit card, I've never paid attention to the category. Taking a look at your screenshots, I'm slightly confused. I've gone through each line and verified that the starting balance was correct and that all transactions since then have been entered into YNAB, but it still thinks my balance is different than what shows on my card. In YNAB credit cards can take some time to understand. When you say to only include "any transactions that are pending on your online CC statement", do you mean those transactions that appear on that statement? That seems easy enough. On average, new users save $600 in the first two months, … Again, you fix this issue by budgeting to make the Payment category match the account balance (as a positive number). In Part 2, I dove into the real… now it’s end of month, when i usually reconcile … For example, let's say I look at my Chase account online, and it says my current balance is $1000. If $245 is not the correct balance, you'll want to reconcile the account, then move money to adjust the Available balance to match the account balance. The most recent credit card statement has transactions on it that pre-date the starting balance that shows for that account on YNAB. Very glad I did because for the first time I started making progress. I had turned it off when I had a short-term 0% debt on a card, but I just finished paying it off. Features. The budgeted amounts have nothing to do with the balances on the cards. Should I find that credit card with last month's balance. Each month, you ha… I use YNAB to handle my finances and while i usually love categorizing purchases on a daily basis I have been completely avoiding this month. You budget to cards to pay down debt you took on earlier that you did not budget for at the time you made the transaction. In the meantime, there are a few troubleshooting steps that have helped other YNABers bypass similar issues: 1.) I'm having similar issue. Double check all hidden categories to make sure that they don't have a balance (a red balance should be fixed or if it is a hidden category that you don't use anymore and there is still money in it, reallocate it to somewhere red). paul atreides Thank you for that advice. My credit card balances are not matching the balances in YNAB and things seem to go absolutely cuckoo when I try to reconcile the account. For example, I buy 99% of my fuel and food on credit card, but any spend in one month won't be taken out of my current account until the following month when the credit card … You are definitely over budget in Oct. because the To Be Budgeted value is negative. Violet Panther it helps to really think about YNAB as the cash-based envelope budget it is. Eventually, as you add more transactions, YNAB will automatically link transactions you have manually entered into the app with transactions that have "cleared" in your CC account. I have always used my credit card like a debit card- paying it off each month. In your case, you didn't raise it enough by the due date, and in some cases, not even by the end of the month following the due date (e.g., Sept 2019). It just doesn't make sense to me at all. :). If you want to pay more than what is in the green, you have to explicitly budget for it. Hoping you take a little time to learn the YNAB process, and why you use it. Regarding your current issue, did you consider your initial balance when adding the cards? So, the Amazon purchase for $20 that is pending online, will eventually clear with Chase bank. Do you have $4,471.12 in uncleared transactions? Or let’s say I prefer to change the budget group currently titled “HOUSING” to “YO MOMMA’S HOUSE.” Easy peasy. The most recent credit card statement has transactions on it that pre-date the starting balance that shows for that account on YNAB. Double check and edit all pending transactions in YNAB to match the pending transactions in your CC statement. They don't have pending charges. Edit your "Starting Balance" transaction in YNAB to match your current CC statement. Why do previous months' CCrd categories show available money  (like in the screenshots I provided) and they don't transfer to the next month? 1. In this situation, YNAB will take money out of the … When your first reconcile is off, I always suspect an incorrect starting balance. Normally I just give a quick glance of payment and account balance matching, but this is a helpful tool to alert you if something has gotten off track if you use the toolkit. Why do previous months' CCrd categories show available money, Because I am not overbudgeted, and yet it is saying I am, https://docs.youneedabudget.com/article/1525-when-you-pay-your-card-in-full, I have the honor to be your obedient servant. When your accounts reconcile, though, your budget is accurate and you can address the categories by moving money as need be. If you look at your CC statement online, the "current balance," which excludes all pending transactions should match up with your "starting balance" in YNAB. jenmas No I haven't. Violet Panther WordTenor is exactly right, I just wanted to include a few links in case you'd like to read them later! What trips most people up is let's say they have a card they pay off every month but on the day they start YNAB they have a balance of $200. If all of your accounts are reconciled, the only thing to do is adjust your various category balances so that things match. :). EveryDollar is a very basic budgeting tool created by the team behind Dave Ramsey, using his principles for managing money. Dont hide your credit card category because you do need to consult it periodically, especially if you do returns or redeem rewards. Because I am not overbudgeted, and yet it is saying I am. It is possible that you will have to budget a negative number. I think you would be better off using it as intended. This is a separate issue from the CC Payment categories. I'm just confused about how this works because I never use the credit card payments section - I always just keep it hidden. I noticed that the budgeted amounts in the left-hand column were not accurately representing the balance on the cards. Once you know those amounts are accurate, then you can adjust the Available amounts. YNAB took $20 from my available grocery money and added $20 as available for the credit card payment. This mechanism is how riding the CC float works: you don't have enough money in the Payment category to pay the statement balance the moment it's generated, but budgeted purchases over the following 4 weeks raise it sufficiently to enable that payment by the due date. Should I go back to the beginning and put previous months to zero  - and would that then accuractely reflect what I actually owe on my credit card? The credit card payment budgets are still showing available money to put towards cards that no longer have balances on them. So there are numerous ways the available amount can get messed up - returns, statement credits, and not setting it up properly at the very beginning. Especially in situations where you buy a pair of shoes on the 10th, pay the bill on the 15th, and return the shoes on the 18th or if you have a statement credit due to promotional offers or cashing in rewards. Also, do I need to somehow change the starting balance to match the credit card statement? :). You need to keep an eye on that category in real time to make sure that it matches your account balance (but is positive whereas the account balance will be negative) because if it is less than your account balance, then as far as the budget is aware, you have not set aside enough money to pay your credit card off. Believe if you take the time to learn it you will be amazed with your progress. Some notable features of this app that set it apart from other solutions (such using separate budgets for different currencies, the YNAB Multi-Currency app, or the Currency Converter for YNAB … So, for instance I just deposited a check. We also have a few other tips on how to reconcile in our Help Doc. I tried to undo but it won't let me do it. The way the program handles them is very different from the way I thought about them before learning to use the program. … Then use the "Edit" button at the top and go down the menu to select "Delete" at the bottom. I like all three. Am I understanding the credit card … Now 2 of my cards have positive balances and one has a negative balance - none of the numbers reflect the actual balances on the card. Very frustrating. It's completely okay to post on an already existing thread with a question! Coral Viper At the end of the day, it is a budget category like any other one and needs to be treated the same way in terms of checking the balance before spending from it (ie paying the bill). … and when your YNAB account register matches your bank account statement, you click the “Reconcile Now” button on the top-right corner of the screen in YNAB’s web app: When you click that button, YNAB will ask you if the number in YNAB … If all transactions are correct, then the balance should match what's on record at your bank. Sync your CC account to YNAB and have the web app automatically import any transaction it detects (which you have done). Because you made budgeted purchases between your payment and the end of the month, which increased the category into positive territory. If you are not able to do that all at once without messing up your plans for your other obligations in the budget, then you'll have to do it gradually and use your budgeted spending to help raise the category. In budget mode you see the … Warning: you may have to edit these again later if you paid tip on any transactions. ‎YNAB—Budget, Personal Finance, Expense Tracker YNAB will help you break the paycheck to paycheck cycle, get out of debt, and save more money. Cleared transactions make up the Cle… Coral Hammer YNAB is designed to use the current online balance, rather than a monthly statement. It's an inflow, so … The article that dakinemaui posted will explain that better. I linked the account and was given a starting date. so when starting over Gina, you're gonna wanna start up with the current clear balance of that credit card. But they're not. Hoping you choose to stay with the program as I believe you will be amazed at the progress you can make. So my CCrd balance, and what shows up in my budget should be identical. While YNAB’s approach to budgeting, handling of credit cards, and other features (like goals and reconciling) are extremely … Your transactions have one of three statuses in the far right-hand column of your account register. Then YNAB should register that you've used $20 of your "Home Supplies" budget on Amazon and take care of allocating that money for paying off your CC. The cards have no balances on them. #1 make sure that none of your other budget categories are red. When I go back to previous months, I see there are various amounts available in the CCrd category in my budget - both positive and negative. I also see I have one pending transaction on my online Chase account that says $20 for an Amazon purchase. But while most will automatically synchronize your accounts on an ongoing basis, they may not reconcile … The transaction for Amazon would require a category for spending, let's say I add it to my personal category called "Home Supplies." (Is that a word?) This works great if your reimbursements are on a credit card account. I was also frustrated with initially syncing my CC account to YNAB and I'll tell you how I initially reconciled everything to my liking. That is paid in full status. This is because these entries are downloaded automatically from your bank. :). A few good starting places are to make sure your transactions are cleared in YNAB (when reconciling, only cleared transactions are factored into the balance) and that all transactions are accounted for (no incorrect amounts, missing transactions, incorrect starting balances, etc.). Bought this in the steam sale and have started setting up my budget, have added in a current account and credit card account. And throughout the month you have to keep an eye on the category to make sure that it is still matching your account balance. When you spend on a credit card, though, you don't spend your cash right that minute. You've reduced the money in your grocery category right away, but now the money has a new job. You must budget $200 to the credit card payment category in that very first month. https://www.youneedabudget.com/free-workshops/, Here is a recording of the class if you don't want to ask any questions or can't make the class time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ0-MHav2u8&t=1379s, Another good option that YNAB offers is their video courses, which also covers a little about credit cards. Best Credit Cards. We’re running out of reconciliation puns.IMPORTANT! I can't get the account reconciled and somehow have each of the transactions now showing they are reconciled. The one that is $74.26 is correct but the other is off. If you pay your cards in full each month, you'll want them to look like your Chase Ink card. Reconcile the account, making an adjustment transaction if necessary. Now, every time I do that, each transaction appears with a "link" icon because YNAB has matched up transactions from my CC statement to ones I added to YNAB manually. (a) Current balance for the credit card (including pending transactions) (b) Total of all pending transactions (according to your bank) Subtract (b) from (a), and if that matches YNAB's cleared balance, you're all set to reconcile. I bet your next reconcile will go more smoothly! That led me to the aha moment which was that I never budgeted for my credit card balance when I started YNAB years ago- so that category has been unbalanced from the beginning without me knowing anything about it. YNAB considers itself an educational program, instead of just a budgeting program, and I agree. jenmas yes- screenshots taken this morning from the different months. This reminded me to turn on the toolkit Paid in Full Credit Card Assist. Also, by starting balance do you mean the "previous balance" on that same statement? You'll need to make sure your account balances are correct first. 5. If you have been and still are on the float, just understand that fact and only pay the amount that is green in the credit card payment available category. To learn more about how credit cards work in YNAB, take a look at our Quick Start Guide to Credit Cards and consider taking our Master Credit Cards with your Budget workshop! so don't worry about last month's balance or the statement balance whatever that balances as of today and just log in to your online credit card … The transaction record for my credit card in YNAB reflects the same thing if I add them up by hand; technically, YNAB should have said I owed $773.66. For example, your CC statement might say you paid $10.00, but later YNAB might try to duplicate that transaction the next time it syncs because you actually paid $12.00 including tip and so YNAB doesn't register them as the same transaction. are treated subtly differently depending on whether you are in budget or account mode. Can you let me know what you mean by things going cuckoo? Here's a link to our Quick Start Guide to Credit Cards and consider taking our Master Credit Cards with your Budget workshop, if you have the time! EveryDollar. I also pay off the cards each month and have not had this issue with prior months. I'm having the exact same problem. This won’t change the amount available to pay back the card, but given that your accounts are positive, it is going to create a large overbudget which you will need to address by moving money from other categories. YNAB has moved the $50 you budgeted for the Internet bill to paying off the credit card. Ideally, you’ll want to end with each card’s “available” amount equal and opposite to the card’s working balance. Thanks everybody for the awesome insights! Coral Viper Did you take all those screenshots on the same day? The penny has literally dropped. Is it a misalignment with the bank account? :). Won't I be double counting each purchase I put on a credit card? I just adjusted all of the account balances to be accurate and negative and put the opposite amount in the credit card payments column. In the meantime, my “Personal Care” category will … I dont want to just put in a charge to reconcile it as that only fixes this current mismatch and not what the actual issue is. Each choice comes with different ways to proceed. I had to unlearn many things I thought I knew, because it wasn't working. :). Check out Part 1 and Part 2 if you need to catch up! Budget whatever is necessary to achieve this. You've assigned jobs to more money than you possess. You can do this easily by using the "bulk select checkbox" at the top of your account view on the web app and then deselecting the transactions you want to keep. I'm only now because YNAB - I guess because its the beginning of the month- forced my incorrect "credit card debt" number  into the "to be budget category" up top, which has forced the issue. https://www.youneedabudget.com/video-courses/. But then, I got an overspending alert on my credit card category and then was required to budget money to get it to go away. Annieland - I looked up 'Paid in Full Credit Card Assit' and found this video:https://docs.youneedabudget.com/article/1525-when-you-pay-your-card-in-full. Cleared: Transactions that your bank knows about and have finished processing are cleared and are marked with a green C at the right-hand side of the transaction line. When you add a credit card to YNAB, a Credit Card Payments Category is automatically created. Watch this quick video—and read the descriptions below—to find out why these statuses are so important to reconciliation. A screenshot or two may help pinpoint what's going on. 1. And then you can just keep any transactions in YNAB that correspond with pending transactions in your CC account online. 4. How to recon with your accounts. Hello there, Rai1. You can see in the screenshot below I clicked ‘mortgage’ and can change it to ‘rent.’ Or, since I don’t pay HOA dues, I can click the trash can and get rid of that line. Your categories are a mix of real money and Monopoly money, which is hardly conducive to quality spending guidance. Past is the past. We reviewed EveryDollar and found that it's claim of … So I did a reconciliation by entering the accurate current balances after I pushed the Reconcile Accounts button. Take a look there and let me know how it goes! (sad face). You'll want to make sure any overspending is addressed to keep this from happening in the future. If you import transactions, many of them will be cleared in YNAB automatically. Whether to pay it in full (PIF) or schedule to pay it off over time? But if you are just doing budgeted spending on the card, you shouldn't need to adjust it at all. Assign some money to your groceries category (using money you already have!). However, YNAB is showing that I have $170 available for my credit card payment, while the card … Follow this: https://docs.youneedabudget.com/article/166-reconciling-accounts. I use a credit card usually for food and diesel so when I reconcile at the end of the month I take the income we have received at the beginning of the month and subtract the amount transferred to … In YNAB the account balances (Bank, Savings, Credit Card etc.) Hurrah! If the account that you're reconciling is connected to your bank, then proceed with reconciling it. Logging into the YNAB … So the prudent thing to do is to take some cash right then, and put it aside for paying the card back. It has a listed balance of -$245 and there is $245 Available in the Chase Ink category (meaning you can pay the card off in full). If you were trying to make the budgeted column match something, that is likely where your problem began. In other words, do a better job of riding the CC float. This is the 3rd (and last) in a series of articles on how my wife and I manage our family’s budget using YNAB. The credit card charge will match my credit card statement and my Wallet will reconcile because the account balance will be reduced accordingly. While pending transactions are included in your bank balance online, they won't be included in your account in YNAB until they clear your bank and import (unless you manually enter them). As long as I am diligent about adding transactions to YNAB using my phone app, every time the app syncs, YNAB asks me to approve transactions it imports from your CC account. Follow YNAB to get support and lots of great ideas on budgeting. Then I would edit my "starting balance" in YNAB to be $1000. Just click “HOUSING” and type your preferred title. 3. You have control over how you classify them too. I would edit my YNAB account to only have two transactions - my "starting balance" and one transaction to Amazon for $20. First, it comes out of the proper category and then it comes out of the credit card payment later...this is confusing to me. Additionally, in the credit card payments category, 1 is negative and 2 are positive - but again none of the numbers reflect actual balances. Give us a few more details and we'll get things ironed out! Credit Card Rewards and Statement Credits. If so, it's not that the $831 from August 31 didn't roll over on Sept 1, it's that everything that happened (new charges, paying a credit card bill, returning things, cashing in points) between Sept 1 and whenever you took that screenshot (presumably Oct 1) also impacted the credit card available category in September and "drowned out" the $831. Any suggestions would be appreciated. You pay $100 at the grocery, and you take $100 out of your "grocery" envelope, and put it in the "pay the card back" envelope. The problem is that under the Credit Card Payments Category Group, where my credit card payment budget category is, YNAB … Just wondered how it works with the credit card payments? I once had a transaction import for $20 - the amount of Cashback I took out - instead of the amount of the purchase plus the cashback. If your categories really were envelopes full of cash, and you went and spent $100 on groceries, you'd take the cash envelope, take out $100, hand it over, and then whatever was left in the envelope would be available for next time. I pay my credit cards in full every month. Your account balance is -$2,301.74, but is listed as $2,169.38 - is that the issue? For accounts connected to online banking, the Service Charge, Interest Earned, and Finance Charge (credit cards) fields do not appear. After you've taken these steps, YNAB should just do the rest. Actual balances (which are reflected under the Reconcile Account button) are correct in this area (this is the actual Chase Reserve balance). Then, when it comes time to pay, you pay the card and it reduces the amount you have in the "pay the card back" envelope. Reconcile each account to its cleared balance. You can click on them and jump to the part you are having trouble with. Thank you! 2. Follow YNAB to get support and lots of great ideas on budgeting, https://www.youneedabudget.com/free-workshops/, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ0-MHav2u8&t=1379s, https://www.youneedabudget.com/video-courses/. When you pay your card off every month have you been checking that the amount you are paying matches what's in the Credit Card Payment category? To fix this, you'll want to budget enough money in the current month so that your credit card category Available amount is enough to pay off your current credit card balance. However, getting into the cockpit of YNAB can feel a tad overwhelming. For me, I had to forget everything I ever thought I knew about budgeting and spend some time learning the YNAB method. If you look back in previous months, you'll most likely find spending categories with Yellow or Red Available amounts. This means there wasn't enough money in those categories to cover the spending that took place - since the spending wasn't budgeted for in those categories, it couldn't be moved to your credit card category for when you made the payment. Your credit card balances … I am having difficulty reconciling a credit card statement for the first time. and instead of reflect that amount to be budgeted, it's showing I'm already overbudgeted by $872.17. And/or you may have been on the credit card float - ie you bought something today that you didn't have enough money for, but knowing that by the time you had to pay the credit card bill you would have enough to pay it. If you're the proud recipient of a hard-earned cash back reward or a statement credit, you may be wondering how to categorize it. The payments have cleared. My credit card balances are not matching the balances in YNAB and things seem to go absolutely cuckoo when I try to reconcile the account. Here is a link to the classes page. 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